My Chronic, Embedded UTI Story
In 2017, I can honestly say I have a UTI history that dates back 30 years. They were always post-coital, tested positive for bacteria and always responded to a course of antibiotics. However, this changed in 2000, when the first hint of an embedded UTI emerged.
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- The First Sign Of The Chronic UTI To Come. >>>>
- And So My Embedded UTI Began. >>>>
- I Refused To Accept A Diagnosis Of Exclusion. >>>>
- A Practitioner Who Understood Chronic UTI. >>>>
- My Chronic UTI Treatment. >>>>
The First Sign Of The Chronic UTI To Come
In 2000, after having another UTI, my symptoms did not fully resolve after a course of antibiotics. After many months of continuing symptoms, several different antibiotics and a series of negative tests, I was referred to a urologist and sent off for an ultrasound.
The infection eventually became severe and I was bleeding from the bladder. The next test was positive for E. coli and a ‘raging infection’ was confirmed by cystoscopy the following day. I was given a three-week course of antibiotics followed by a three-month low-dose, prophylactic antibiotic course of Macrodantin.
“I was told I had probably experienced a low-grade infection that had kept under the testing radar.”
My acute symptoms cleared quickly and the remaining symptoms resolved over time.
And So My Chronic, Embedded UTI Began
From 2000 I had my occasional post-coital UTIs that tested positive and always responded to antibiotics. This changed once again in 2008.
After a bad infection, my symptoms did not fully clear with several courses of antibiotics and subsequent tests were negative for bacteria (but showed leukocytes, blood, epithelial cells and ‘no significant growth’).
After a number of months of continuing symptoms, I was sent back to the urologist. He suggested that sometimes antibiotics have an ‘anti-inflammatory effect’, which he said explained my improvement while taking them – but there was no longer an active infection. It was concluded I had developed an overactive bladder from the initial infection.
“My symptoms (bladder burning, urethral burning, burning on re-filling, frequency etc) continued, and I gave up on seeing doctors.”
I was trialled on an anti-cholinergic (Ditropan) which did not help. My symptoms (bladder burning, urethral burning, burning on re-filling, frequency etc) continued into 2009 and I gave up on seeing doctors.
During this time I discovered d-mannose and took it daily. This helped ease my symptoms and slowly they resolved.

I Refused To Accept A Diagnosis Of Exclusion
Things had returned to normal and I only had the occasional post-coital UTI that tested positive for bacteria and always responded to antibiotics.
Once again, this changed in October 2013. After feeling a UTI developing, as usual I tried to ‘flush’ the infection through by drinking copious amounts of water, as had been recommended by different doctors over the years.
After seeing my GP with a very diluted urine sample, I despaired when the test came back negative and no further action was required.
My UTI symptoms continued and worsened. After a second negative test I was trialed on a course of antibiotics. After a week of no improvement, I was told to stop the antibiotics. During this period, tests showed raised leukocytes, blood and epithelial cells – and ‘no significant growth’.
By now I was suffering intense, rock-like bladder pressure, burning at the top of the bladder as well as at the base and neck, intermittent urethral discomfort and RIF (Right Iliac Fossa) pain.
This was significantly life altering. I was no longer able to work and spent the majority of my time lying flat with a heat pack over my abdomen to help ease some of the discomfort.
“I became tired, withdrawn and stopped socializing and communicating with my family and friends. I started to feel helpless and increasingly sad.”
Again, I was referred to a new urologist who sent me for a special urine test and a CT scan. He said I would need a cystoscopy before he could diagnose me with Painful Bladder Syndrome (PBS). He mentioned the ‘autoimmune’ theory and how this was connected to women when under ‘stress.’
I did not accept the offer of the cystoscopy or the PBS diagnosis and started my own research. I was sure my problem was linked to infection, as it had been back in 2000. I was certain I was suffering from an embedded UTI.
Finally, A Practitioner Who Listened And Understood Embedded UTI
In my research I came across the words ‘occult bacterial infection’ and this struck a chord with me. I was then extraordinarily lucky to come across a very knowledgeable and informative online group and learnt about the work of an English Professor who ran a specialist clinic in London treating complex, recalcitrant urinary infections.
I spent the next couple of years managing my symptoms the best I possibly could and learning everything I could get my hands on about embedded bladder infections.

In 2016 I finally travelled to London to see the Professor. At my appointment he asked for a fresh, undiluted urine sample which he looked at straight away under his microscope. He was looking for signs of infection, in particular white blood cells and epithelial cells.
He then listened closely to my UTI history and asked lots of questions about my symptoms. Unlike all the other doctors I had seen in Australia, he seemed very interested in my symptoms. He also performed a quick, non-invasive physical examination.
“I was diagnosed with a chronic UTI and he explained I’d probably had the infection for some years.”
He started me on antibiotic treatment immediately and warned me that it was likely to take some time to completely clear this type of embedded infection.
My Chronic UTI Treatment
Part of managing the treatment is to monitor symptoms, along with urinary white blood cells and epithelial cells. Local clinical labs refused to do this, so I found a trained person who agreed to do this independently.
I was to keep in contact with the Professor by phone and email and he would communicate with my local GP.
I was very lucky that my GP was so supportive and agreed to help with this unconventional approach. It was clear from the beginning she wanted to help me, but she had no experience or understanding of this condition or how to treat it without guidance.
Early into treatment I had a change in antibiotics when we noticed my white blood cells and epithelial cells had suddenly shot up. They soon dropped back when we introduced a new antibiotic.
“In all, it took around eight months before I noticed my symptoms had been gradually improving.”
It’s common for urinary signals to improve long before your symptoms do. I have been on treatment for my chronic, embedded UTI for 14 months and I’m now 80 percent better.
I experience occasional symptoms that might affect me for a brief period, but from my understanding of the science, I know this happens when infected bladder wall cells shed and the offending bacteria become active. It never lasts very long.
Even though my symptoms have improved enormously, I still have a way to go before I completely eradicate the infection.
If these infections remain undiagnosed and untreated over a long time (which happens because it’s such a poorly recognized and misunderstood form of UTI, which current testing cannot identify) they can become deeply embedded into the layers of the bladder wall. This means treatment can take a long time.
Many people are judgemental about taking antibiotics for extended periods, so I choose not to share this with those who don’t understand my condition. Sometimes I get comments from a pharmacist or sales assistant, so I fill my prescriptions at different pharmacies so I can avoid this.
On top of having this horrible condition, receiving judgment is extremely frustrating and unfair to deal with. Currently, long-term antibiotic therapy is the only appropriate and available treatment for people like me with a chronic, embedded UTI.
The London clinic receives many international patients, but I know not everyone can travel overseas to see a specialist. It took me over two years of on-going pain and suffering before I made this drastic decision, although now I wish I hadn’t waited so long.
The Situation In Australia Needs To Change
We desperately need a specialist in Australia who is educated and trained in diagnosing and treating chronic, embedded UTIs. At the moment, there is just one website, Chronic UTI Australia, that addresses this issue in the region.
This whole experience has been a horrible ordeal. In Australia I was put through various testing, including ultrasounds (as well as several transvaginal scans), CT scans, cystoscopy, several pap smears and a pelvic MRI.
“I was angrily berated by a specialist until I cried at their desk. I was told by one doctor that I research too much, and told by another it was time to focus on my life and not my bladder.”
Inadequate test results were given more credibility by doctors than the symptoms I was experiencing — which is not only disheartening, but insulting.
This is what I’ve learnt from my chronic, embedded UTI ordeal:
- Current lab testing is NOT sensitive enough to pick-up embedded infections.
- Test results showing levels of leukocytes, blood and epithelial cells indicate INFECTION is present.
- It is untrue that infections can only be caused by a single species of a known urinary pathogen. This means reports of ‘No Significant Growth’, ‘Mixed Growth’ and counts of epithelial cells DO NOT mean the sample was contaminated and should NOT be ignored.
- Doctors and specialists pay far too much attention to lab reports and do not give enough credibility to a patient’s symptoms.
- Sadly, doctors and specialists, worldwide, are invested in the current status quo and will aggressively defend their positions.
- Testing needs to change and GPs need to update their understanding of chronic, embedded UTI so they can help treat their patients.
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Hi, I live in London and I have had Chronic UTI for months now and I suspect embedded bacteria as my infection always returns after antibiotics.
Thank you for your very informative website and may I ask the name of the London clinic and professor you went to? I would like to go and get myself sorted out too. Thank you in advance, and I’m glad you’re recovering
Hi Victoria, thanks for your positive feedback. I can send you more information via email if you send me a direct message. Melissa
I can relate to your story as I’ve been suffering from recurring UTIs for almost 40 years and not properly treated. I live in Montgomery County Maryland and would like information for a doctor who’s interested and knowledgeable in this field. Thank you!
Hi Bita, we can share more information about practitioners via email. Can you send us a direct message and let us know if you’re specifically looking for a clinician that uses an approach similar to that described in Anna’s story? Melissa
Hi,
I am based in London. Could you please provide me the professors clinic detail?
Thank you
Hi Tenzin, I just sent you an email with more information about this. If you don’t receive it, please check your spam folder. Melissa
terrible UTI in May, was in the ER with blood in my urine, took antibiotics and it took everything away besides terrible burning. I burn every day on and off. Diagnosed with IC in August but I don’t believe that’s it. I keep getting UTIs. I need a doctor that can help me in my area… please help
Hi Lonnie, can you send us a direct message and let us know where you’re based, so we can share more information via email? Melissa
Hi there
I’m so pleased to hear that you are getting on top of your bladder issues ☺
I have had an issue now for around a year and a half, which has resulted in a recent flare up and I will need to take a month’s course of antibiotics. I too would love to know who you see in London as i feel i am not being treated correctly and feel i need a more proactive approach to get on top of this.
Best wishes to you
Louise
Hi Louise, I just emailed you more information about this. Melissa
I resonate with this her journey. I had scheduled a doctor’s appointment with a doctor who will perform the urinalysis from Microgen DX. However, I would love more advice on someone for embedded UTIs? I’m in Birmingham, AL. I’ve been diagnosed with IC, but I don’t think it’s a true diagnosis. I had one UTI in my life and since then, I’ve been miserable.
Hi Abigail, sorry to hear you’re experiencing this, you’re definitely not alone. Can you send me a direct message so I can share more via email? Melissa
I have had a UTI since July most likely. I feel like when I visit my GP office they very much rely on the test results versus the symptoms I explain. I have been on 5 rounds of antibiotics in the past 2 months alone. Finally, on Monday I will be seeing a urologist and I hope he will better treat me. I feel like the antibiotics definitely help me but when I go off them within two days I start feeling symptoms again.
I would love to know more about the treatment you received. I feel like this problem is beginning to take control of my life and it seems never ending. I never imagined that at 25 I would hide inside due to the constant burning and discomfort of an unrelenting UTI. I feel like I’m in the doctors office nearly every week.
Hi Jessica, sorry to hear you’re experiencing that. I can sympathise. The treatment Anna mentions in her story above is based on a protocol used by some specialists in the UK. If you’d like more information about this protocol, can you send us a direct message and let us know where you’re based, so we known which resources are most relevant? Melissa
I’ve had 5 months of antibiotic and only am free of burning while of the meds and two weeks after. Do you know any specialists in the Boston area?
Hi Patty, I’ve emailed you some more information. If you don’t receive it, please check your spam folder. Melissa
1st UTI at 17, and 15 yrs later still suffering. After having my daughter 7 yrs ago, I managed 6.5 yrs UTI free. But, they are back.
In May i got my 1st infection. Since, I have fallen into cycle of infection, antibiotics,4/5 weeks symptom free, infection returns. I know the min the infection is taking hold and go to docs. X2 now, I’ve been sent away, only for them to call me up after sample is sent to lab to say infection was present.
6 weeks ago I spent 3 weeks on dif antibiotics as they struggled to find 1 that worked. This has scared me.
6 weeks later, after being sent away on Friday, I have been up all night. I have taken UVA-URsi & enhimavra all weekend + D-mannose but all to no avail.
Any advice? I am considering seeking alternative therapy as feel I am getting nowhere.
Hi Linda, can you send us a direct message and let us know where you’re based? We may be able to share some useful resources. Melissa
Hi Melissa could you let me know the name of the London based consultant you saw as I live near there and need to see a specialist . Thanks
Hi Lucy, I didn’t work with this particular specialist, but Anna, whose story this is, did. The clinician she is referring to is Professor Malone-Lee and you can find more information about his clinic and other UK-based recurrent UTI specialists here. Melissa
Thank you for sharing this story. I was diagnosed with IC last year and have been on Elmiron since due to recurrent UTIs. I felt better for awhile but have recently developed them again. Antibiotics do help, but the UTIs keep coming back. I suspect an embedded infection. Please send any information you feel might help me. I am in Georgia, US. God bless you.
Hi Linda, can you send us a direct message with more information about what steps you’ve taken and what you’d like to do next, so we know which resources may help? You also might like to read our information on chronic vs recurrent UTI, UTI testing, and UTI treatment options. Melissa
Hi can you tell me what professor in London did you see ?
The professor mentioned in the story is Professor Malone-Lee. You can find more information about his clinic, along with other recurrent UTI specialists in the UK, here. Melissa
Hi could you please forward on the specialist you see in london please. would be much appreciated thankyou.
Hi Carla, I emailed you some more information. Melissa